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dango tumma

why cry for o cameroun? is that ur country arrey?
cry for southern cameroons. where you can eat on the kings table.
cry for our independence. meen

the wonderer

finally somebody is talking the language of change, something we have longed sought after. It is this fine detailing that we should be thinking about and actively working on it. Time to move to the practical phase. mobilisation on the ground.

Aken Aten

hehehhehehehe!!!!!!

.............. Japan is inadequate for agriculture and this country imports nearly all its raw material.Yet it is a very developed country (God bless them as they recover from the current crisis). Switzerland is a small country that is known for producing some of the best chocolates without producing any cacao. It is also considered the safe box of the world with its banking system.
............
On you earlier piece i already had mentionned the lightness of ideas coupled with the puberty of the conclusions might indeed drive you into an abyssal hole!
Since the rest of this piece is strangely intellectually weak let me look at the aformentionned lines to help you understand why politics is still by far the most complex science knowned to human!
It might therefore be important to look into crossing the "101" before stating the "un-statable"!
Japan as a ........... "Very developped country" will surprise many. In certains "intellectuals" shores, the catastrophy that has shaken that "very developped country" is ususllay reffered to as ........... an "Act of God"!
Strangely enough no one remebers GOD when Japan was emmerging ( the 60's) or even crusing towards its future (the 70 AND 80's). It was then discribed as the "natural outcome of the "Meiji Revolution"!
Ah, man !!!!!!!!!!!

On the issue of Switzerland and chocolate i do not need to remind you of the fact that Ivory coast has the largest port in the world for the exports of Cocoa (San Pedro!)and that its president was removed so that simpleton as friends of yours keep commenting about the greatness of new esclavagist countries such at the one that you named.

My point regarding Switzerland is far from it cocoa needs but rather what links that "great" nation to an african named Maurice. If you had completed your "history of religion 101", you would know that the Maurice has become a catholic "calendar name" ( listing the saints) due to the martyre of a certain black man call Maurice who, from the Coptic house of the Catholic church based in Alexandria, and working for a roman emperor refused to kill fellow catholic leaving in switzerland (though Catholic from the house of Rome!)
Maurice was then executed and became the patron saint of .................. SWITZERLAND!
Strangely enough most of the african (you are clearly among them!) can't even remember that time!!!

Politics is serious! Keep away from it!


abakwa

Another great piece again mr Obenson and a true way to start looking at change and how we as Cameroonians can begin putting bright ideas to make this change happen. Getting the masses on the ground to register and vote is a good idea but when people have been broken for decades as you indicated with falsified voting results every election, they turn to leave the arena and let fraud prevails. That said, its not the best thing to do because as we have seen world wide that the masses if organized and determined can cause change in a short time. I will also encourage others to talk to relatives and friends and also send media invitations to foreign stations to bring some accountability and a bit of fairness to the election process.

People can belly up and put money together to mobilize the polls by providing transportation if needed, assist journalist from foreign country as guides to show them what happens in Cameroon and post pictures and clips of political and economic mishaps for the world to see. Cameroonians can step away from tribal differences and look at the country as a whole because thats only how we can move forward. The idea I read from one of the comments asking you if you are Cameroonian or southern cameroon is what takes us back and prevents development politically as we still in 2011 play tribal games. If a candidate from the north or south or east or west has a good running platform with genuine or clear progress for the country why should it matter? and if southern "Cameroon" .....why should the country divide if we can support a progressive and democratic candidate?

And Aken Aten comments or points just throws me off. I think he needs to be clear in his direction and comment on the points and move away from roaming. Aken what are your own non "abyssal hole!" suggestions or ideas to move Cameron forward?

Aken Aten

My good friend Abakwa,
I really fail to understand how the commented article can be and i quote ........Another great piece again mr Obenson and a true way to start looking at change..............
See, my point when i read articles here is that some of the parties clearly need to understand that there is such a thing as a NEGATIVE note in class.
Whilst I understand the need for everybody to give its two bit piece on the upcoming fall of "mabongo -X- boy" of Etudi who himself had helped us doing away with the "apprentice" communication technician (alias the father of the nation) from Garoua, it is more important to understand that politics is a science.
As such one needs to understand the fundamentals before entering the ring!
Clearly Oberson has not!
Pointing that to him is the best service that we can all render to our future because if he crosses the arena of "open ed" to get involved and by chance ............. he was to be elected at any political position...........
We ought to be carefull here!Cameroon needs not to move forward because Cameroon as a nation created bu teh treaty of berlin and redrawn by the League and perfected by the San francisco treaty organisation, and constantly edited since teh 60's ............ is a NON SENSE!
Beside, after avoiding the cretinery of our leaders and the ever-grabbing France -Afrique,HOW EXACTLY can "Cameroon" compete with a 1,3 Billion' Chinese nation or even 1 billion Indian one.
It is clear from where i look at this "confusion" that ONLY Africa must move ahead!
Gone are the days of the shrimp camaroes that suddently became ..... the crab of the UPC's Kamerun! A guess a sick "bassa" joke of translation from the portugese shrimp into german crab and more importatly avoiding to know the HIERATIC ( second language of ancient Egypt!)

For GOD's sake, we can at least leave this name and proclaim our dying need to rejoin our fellow african brother in renaming it African Land of something???????

There lies our past and therefore our future! Let us not be afraid to look at that direction.

It is our only horizon!!!!

The heroes of our past that are not dead (and who certainly are a bit confused about the help to be given to countries with no history that goes beyong the 1884-1885 "treaty") are certainly still awaiting that we remember them!
What is the future of thoses "countries" without .....history????????

Gina Pintem

Mr Arrey:
Thank you not only for making a diagnosis of the problems that plague Cameroon, but for moving swiftly into a preparatory phase that invites Cameroonians into a dialogue for reconstruction. As much I do not want to focus on the negative, you know Cameroonians well enough to expect them to deviate from a constructive dialogue. Look at how much air Aken is taking in the room only to come back empty handed at the end of the day. He propositions nothing concrete. He lives in the abstract. But I still prefer him to those others...
I am talking about the majority who are reading and thinking that your plans include the creation of an organization that they will come and milk dry. It is what we do best in Cameroon. We come to kill good plans.
Thank you for sharing the courage of your thoughts, and thank Mr Chia Innocent and the Chia Report for the diversity of views.
Gina

victor etta

Mr Obenson,
the simplicity of your ideas is very refreshing. Some have always been conditioned to believe that since rocket science played a major part in drifting us away from our desired destiny, it is the same rocket science that should take us back. Lack of applied education can really be a big curse. There is a small simple path - albeit a bushy shortcut in need of a bit of trimming - that should lead us back, but we fail to realize it, because we are always focused on the notion that only ideas manufactured to travel on the super highway can carry us back to our desired destiny. Grassroot level, as you emphasized is where it is should start - planting that seed within each community and enabling the community to empower its people to embolden themselves with a change in mentality.
I like your plan, and as simplistic and naive as it sounds, it is the most honest way I see for us to move forward. It is up to those among us who have the leadership qualities to pick on it and let it grow.

Victor Etta

Emmanuel Elangwe

@Aken
What is your point!? "Politics is a science"...So...what!?

Aken Aten

So boy, ........ two questions!!!
1- Can you migrate Fukushima (Japan) today??? The international community ( alias community of "vice Gods") is looking for letters of intents of new members whishing to head to Japan and loving its "very developped" status as Obenson! Well if you hesitate, try for Alabama (Us)! There is certainly help to be given there!
Someone remind to our two friends (Obama and Ito members of the "international community") that Only GOD is in charge here on planet Earth ( and for that matter in the whole word)!

2- Who is the only "president" in the history that was ever "democratically elected" but "installed by arms forces"!!!
Whilst the same "z'international community" plans on installing its own president-elect, May the 21 st 2011 in Cote d'ivoire, i am left wandering ...........WHO exactly is today's president of COTE d'IVOIRE! oup's!!!

Any Obenson view on the matter??? After all, if i understand his aim he might become his pair soon!!!

Additionally i intend to find if a president elected has ever send embassadors (-who have been received and installed by-) in foreign countries. hehehehhe!
Oh!!! One last question ........

But after all why bother you with that Elangwe!

I guess, you got "the" point! Political science is indeed a science!

Emmanuel Elangwe

Very funny...I'm not the least bothered. I'm not sure what your point is...!! Seriously, I'm not trying to be a douche...! You still didn't answer my question nor made your point clearly.

It must be ME...It's so hard to follow your rational here. I'm not against your critic of Obenson's Op-Ed, nor am I defender of his political philosophy, I'm here to educate (if possible) myself on Cameroonian issues, and read the reactions of the educated class of my fellow country men...So, when I pose a question, I'm not trying to pick a fight. (I could, but just not worth it).

So once again...write SLOWLY and COHERENTLY (so a retard like myself can follow your logic) what exactly your point(s) is/are...

Thank you.

Aken Aten

Pick Up a Fight? Slowly and Coherently???
A Retard like myself........????
My good frieng Elangwe, I fail to understand what you are trying to comprehend. Is it my views or my commets on the views of Obenson?
Both of them are related to the future of Cameroon.
My point is simple Political science is by far THE MOST COMPLEX SCIENCE THAT MAN HAS EVER HAD TO GRASP!
Therefore when we speak about the future of the presidency in Cameroon (as a part of understanding that science!),(including the future of his current president and or his replacement), we ought to understand that much!
Two fathers of Nations is enought stupideness!!!!
Three mistakes to avoid when one speak about political science in Cameroon (or in Africa for that matter.)
1- History for Us starts 5000 Years ago (not with colonisation). The actual understanding of it will help fellow cameroonians to understand the real mening of biya. His names means( in Hieratic) MINE! Amazingly enough the poor cretin does not even knows it! Some of his followers who might know about it have all decided to look at his future with their.....ears!!!
Silence therefore........ they are digging!
2- The creation of a "modern" State in a part of Africa is simply a non sense. African simply need to know their history! The natural state to be drawn will appear and i assume it will go far beyong todays frontiers!
But most of my fellow country men like to beleive that going back to jesus is already hard enough. Attempting to understand our lives before is simply ....... FUTILE!!!
They are however ready to go forward!!!!!!!!!
Where does not ...... matter!!!!
3- Africa Will unite or African will disapear from Earth. Anything before that stage is just a waist of time!
To further understand what i have to say re-read what was written already as comments of this........... "open ed".......!!!!!
Explication are there!!!

Many returns

Emmanuel Elangwe

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Folks have got murdered the other person, inside enormous battles and also guerilla activities, for most generations, whilst still being killing the other person in today's, above Ideologies and also Made use of which usually, explained since propositions, show up none correct or bogus to be able to modern day logicians-- useless propositions in which seem important for the linguistically unsuspecting.

EAU

@Aken.
I still do not see where you discourse lends to Mr Obenson's piece. You seem to be on a quest to expound on the complexities of the science of politics, without either depunking or giving any straightforward critique of the piece. I do accept negative critique, but do try to keep it germane, or the rest of us, will simply see you as the notorious rabble rousers of our dear nation. alot of talk, very little substance...or should i say very disjoint substance. I pray you make your point, and try keeping it simple. @Obenson : Good piece, I pray many people read it.

Aken Aten

@EAU! How difficult is it to understand that political science is a ......... SCIENCE????
You really leave me pondering on the issue!!!!
See what is so funny is that while you are engaging this issue i have just been informed that plans are afoot to elect (let us just say simply to name) a certain cameroonian called Vigouroux Chantal Pucherie alias the woman-lion aka the second "wife" of the second ........... FATHER of the nation, ......................... SENATOR in the upcoming high chamber of the representative side aile of our democratic governement!
Now i beleive that this is indeed a good time to revisit two important facts.
1- The first and "only" wife of our first father of the nation refuses to lower the fanion of the CNU (For the young Cameroun National Union!) Apparently she still has some pictures of our current "Lord" swearing that he will be faithfull to the former one!
2- As though things were not difficult enough with the Senagalo-cameroonian protecteress of our Garoua boy, we now have to contend with teh new dream of our geniune and illeterate princess (who still cannot choose between her french and cameroonian passport): TO BE CALLED MADAME LA SENATEUR PRESIDENTE!
Nothing new under that tropics the Current Wife of the president of Uganda Yoweri Museveni is -herself- Minister in his......... Governement!!!!
I do not know about the wife of our "future Lord" Obenson "the third" but if he bring to us an american (that we will tropicalise as african-american), i beleive that we might finnally resolve the problems of double nationality in the "shrimp land"!
Maybe we will then be able to offer political asylum to a man who has made more headline that Gbagbo in this first half of the year 2011: Dominique Strauss Khan...

By the way anyone has the adress of the "z'international community" to address the very urgent issue of a "former" french citizen in time so that he can attend the inauguration of the "burkina-boy" in Cote d'ivoire!!!

Pity that he might miss such a great day of democracy for xhich he has worked so hardly!!!!

EAU, as i told here many times GOD IS IN CHARGE and Politics is VERY complicated!
Amateur should stay away!
Let me just finish by asking a question: Anyone who beleive that you can build a nuclear plant ( and actually build it!) in a VERY sysmic country is part part of a nation that is very developped or very ..........?
Enjoy (half)brother!!!!!

EAU

Well, thanks once more for your illuminations Mr aken. To the rest of the house, I guess its time we just ignored him and actually talked about the issues.
@Obenson, I do still believe that Cameroon has never had a lack of great ideologues, but our problem seems to be inertia. How to make a groundswell of support for any idea, given our years of apathy will surely be the greatest challenge. Anyone who can figure out how to actually get Cameroonians interested in 'doing' something, not only talking (which we do quite well), might just have found the right formula. And I do believe it would be difficult to start from without, and not within.

Aken Aten

EAU! Well your answer only leaves us with one question. What shoud Aken Aten do with its views???? Ah!!!
When will the magic of internet is still not hitting a few nostalgic of the "CNU" (alias parti unique)!!!
What??????? Inertia of "Great Ideologues"!!!
I guess in "miondo-land" everything is possible even that you get access to a .... computer!!!
Keep good half bro!!!

Julia L Gham

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